a witness herein, having been first
duly sworn, was examined and testified as
BY MR. BAXTER
Q. Would you state your
name for the record?
A. Deanne Ebbert.
Q. And, Mrs. Ebbert, how long have
in West View Borough?
A. About 43
Q. And during that course of time,
ever worked in any position for the
West View, the North Hills School
A. Crossing guard at
Chalfonte, Perry Highway.
Q. How close would that be to this
building that we're talking
Q. Three buildings away? A.
Q. And would you tell the Board, if
the period of time that you worked
there as a
A. 4 1/2 hours a day, 7
to 9, 11:15 to 1, and
like 2:30 to 4:15.
Q. And how many years
have you done that?
A. About 20 years
Q. 20 years at that position?
Q. During that period of time,
then, you would
have had the opportunity to observe
property. Is that
A. Any properties along
Q. Did you ever observe during
that course of
time any automobiles parked in the
front of that
building on what we've termed here to
Q. On how many
a few times. I -- except for the
morning. There wasn't nobody parked
there in the
morning. Never. Then a couple times,
Mr. Ballon if he backed up there. I
had to keep it
clear for the students, and he said
he's just loading
the car and he'll leave shortly.
Q. All right. So the
period of time -
WATSON:- Could we just go back
over that, because I was
Q. What was the period of time
that you say
that Mr. Ballon was backed up to the
Like around 11 o'clock -- no. It was
when I came -- like at lunchtime, he
was loading the
car. I said, I've got students
coming. He said, I'm
leaving shortly. So he never gave me
WATSON: Let's go back a little
further. I think she started talking
difference, the 7-to-9
in the morning.
There was nobody ever parked there.
WATSON: I'm sorry.
MR. BAXTER: That's
then you say you had a discussion with
Mr. Ballon on occasion?
A. Yes. A couple of
times. He said he's
leaving shortly; and if somebody else
there, nobody's supposed to park
here, and they
would leave. It wasn't just
his. The Crowning Glory
Beauty Shop, several times they had
off towels. They had big bunches of
they'd drop off stuff and
when you told Mr. Ballon, he told you
that he was going to pull out of
Q. And he knew not to park there?
what you said?
CLEMENT: What is that? I
object. She doesn't know what Mr.
BAXTER: No. No. I'm talking
about a conversation that she had
with Mr. Ballon.
CLEMENT: He's asking what
Mr. Ballon was thinking.
we have this clear on the record, did
you ever have a discussion with Mr.
parking in front of that
A. I went down, and I
said, the students are
going to be coming. You're not
supposed to be parked
here, and he said he's just unloading
his car and
he's going to be leaving shortly.
Q. Did you have an
opportunity to observe that
building in the early 1990s up
A. In '95? Q.
A. Yes. I was there until about
ago. Then I went to
Q. Did you ever make any
observations -- do
you know when Joe Barr ran that
A. Yes. A lot of times he
walked to work. He
would come down the hill.
you ever notice, Mrs. Ebbert, his van
parked on the sidewalk in front of
A. I don't recall.
Anything-that would be
parked on the sidewalk bothered me,
because I liked
it clear for the students.
MR. BAXTER: You can